N) [unnecessary clarification, prompted by fear of prior incomplete communication] Attempting to change others' opinions through discussion: seen as reasonable, attempting to change others' actions, conflicting with their opinions, without trying to change their opinions in order to do this: seen as unreasonable. [/unnecessary clarification]
The word 'reasonable', though: this quickly heads down a new path, looking at those who change others' actions through force or sufficient economic incentives... it gets complicated very quickly, particularly as the 'economic incentives' route seems peaceful. Try to outline the entire status of the entire situation in entirely unambiguous language, and... ...you find you've got two minutes to go and your teeth still unbrushed. I'll assume that you can piece together my trail of thought from what I've written already and leave the concept of entirely unambiguous communication of worldview for a later date. (And if I'm suddenly seized by an urge to come back and rewrite this bit for greater clarification, as it's certainly gotten flaws in conveying my thoughts on this meta-matter, I must not do it...! *resolute, posts and attempts not to post more until a response is received to respond to*)
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The word 'reasonable', though: this quickly heads down a new path, looking at those who change others' actions through force or sufficient economic incentives... it gets complicated very quickly, particularly as the 'economic incentives' route seems peaceful. Try to outline the entire status of the entire situation in entirely unambiguous language, and...
...you find you've got two minutes to go and your teeth still unbrushed. I'll assume that you can piece together my trail of thought from what I've written already and leave the concept of entirely unambiguous communication of worldview for a later date. (And if I'm suddenly seized by an urge to come back and rewrite this bit for greater clarification, as it's certainly gotten flaws in conveying my thoughts on this meta-matter, I must not do it...! *resolute, posts and attempts not to post more until a response is received to respond to*)