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Many thanks for your responses to my previous questions about making meaning for oneself in a cosmic world that produces no external justifications.

This is not about cosmic issues. It's about something completely different.

As you well know, I follow politics, sometimes with zeal, sometimes with snark, occasionally with snarls.

However, having also watched several improv comedy shows here and there, the two mixed. Weirdly.

So, the following question:

What would the state of discourse be if every time someone who the population relies on to be honest, like a politician or a journalist/commentator, were subjected to a bleep censor every time they uttered a demonstrably false statement?

I'm not sure whether the bleep censor would just be over the part of the statement that made it untrue, like bleeping a "not" or a figure that's incorrect, or whether the entire statement would simply be bleeped out. I think bleeping the words would make things much more interesting. In print, a direct quote would have the redaction bar over the offending part of the statement.

I'm sure there would be accusations of media bias as to when the bleep censor was applied and to whom.

And there would have to be an allowance for live programs, as one cannot fact-check a speech in the middle of it sufficiently to apply the censor to anything novel. By the time the media programs start playing clips, though, they should be fact-checked enough to apply the filter.

I don't know which way things would go - whether there would be actual honesty in politics, the weaseling would get to a point where nothing could be demonstrated to be untrue, or whether we would have major speeches that could only be heard live, as any replay would simply be a rather long application of the bleep censor.

What do you all think?
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Date: 2011-08-14 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hebinekohime
A subtitle disclaimer (footnote if print) would be a better and more interesting choice, imho.
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Date: 2011-08-15 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hebinekohime
You could display them like a regular subtitle; a caption at the bottom of the screen, which would give a correction or needed qualification to the statement.

I realize it's purely hypothetical, but if you were to regulate politicians lying over the airwaves then successfully disproving the lie would be more effective than bleeping it. You can't ever filter out all of the noise, but you can give people the information and hope that they use it.
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Date: 2011-08-15 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hebinekohime
Well, they'd have to be legibly displayed and about as large as conventional subtitles (as opposed to, say, the disclaimers on pharmaceutical ads).

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