Well, now.
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silveradeptAll sorts of fun things crossed my desktop today. Pole dancing taught as exercise, for example.
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eleme, here's a perfect example of how typos will change your meaning.
And an interesting take on what actually constitutes truth. Especially when you could end up calling kids who set fire to churches pranksters or terrorists, depending on their social statuses. "What is truth?" Pilate declared.
Cooler stuff - there's been water found on one of Saturn's moons. Now, does this mean there's life there? Maaaaybe. Even if we don't find anything, now we know what other possibilities might develop lifeforms. (Cue Data singing from Generations)
And a potentially lengthy thought and question - going under the cut for length more than content.
What happens when curiosity becomes... something else?
Explain.
Well, at the outset of a query, curiosity means that the high-level general answer will satisfice. You learn the beginner's answer, as it were, the one that will answer the question, needing as little in-depth or theory material as possible. One understands the how, if not necessarily the why.
And?
Well, on subjects where there is greater interest, the beginner's answer won't do. Curiosty is satisfied, but at this point, it changes into something else... desire, perhaps? Regardless of the name of the state, the question of why enters, and rather than satisfaction, understanding becomes the goal.
So far so good. What's the problem?
One would think that the natural state associated with such a want would be intensity or interest or desire, as I mentioned. Instead, there is a profound nervousness that is associated with this particular want.
Worried about what people will think about you?
Not as much. If you take a look around merely this friendslist, I have more than enough deviants on it that I'm already guilty by association. If I were really worried about disapproving stares, I wouldn't have them as friends. (My friendslist would also be far more boring - likely with few to nobody on it) Admittedly, there's very little reason for me to tell the more conservative persons in the family about all the freaks that I hang out with - and besides, they're great people who have a few kinks to them. They wouldn't be half as interesting otherwise. Nah, I really shouldn't be too concerned about looking like a deviant.
Something else, then?
Kind of. Might actually be social anxieties about this - it is new territory, and we've documented pretty well how much "Me" gets anxious in new situations. It's different, reading the books, getting the beginner's answer, or even the theoretical answer, and then talking to the people who put it into practice in their lives. I feel somewhat... unqualified to be in that kind of presence. No experience and all that. That could be it, but there's something else to it.
Such as?
That this is one of those things that's not just a goddamn hobby. Well, that takes some explaining - I don't necessarily think the things that my friends have talked about are just hobbies - that would be demeaning to them. I want to learn about those things, as well - not just the how, but the why. What I'm seeing so far is something profound, deep, layered, where I admittedly had very little idea that it was like that before. I'm beginning to suspect that all the other things that I'm curious about have had those layers to them, and either I haven't noticed or I haven't asked. Seeing this is making me reinterpret a lot of things.
"The more I know, the more I know I need to know more?"
Even more than that! The realization that my understanding is still superficial and shallow for a lot of important things. Not that I just need to know more, but that I need to understand more, experience more, and do more. Realizing that with as much time as I've spent learning about things, I haven't done a whole bunch of them. Perhaps this is a long-awaited awakening or something. I'm feeling a bit more adventurous now, And now I'm wondering how to get started on making those adventurous thoughts turn into the real thing. May have to break out more than just Morton's List this time.
At the same time, take into account what you're seeing and learning. Change won't happen overnight, necessarily.
Yeah. Goddess grant me patience, but if you could hurry it along, that would be nice. Ah, well. Will have to play it by ear and see if the universe decides to play along.
What lies beyond the furthest reach of the sky?
That which leads the lost child back into its mother's arms...Exile.
The waves that stain the land in gold...
The breath of blessings that nutures life...the land of wheat.
The path upon which the angels walk
Thou art the path of great winds; the Grand Stream.
What lies beyond the furthest reaches of memory?
Where everything is born and to where everything returns...the blue star.
Seems appropriate, although I don't know why.
eleme, here's a perfect example of how typos will change your meaning. And an interesting take on what actually constitutes truth. Especially when you could end up calling kids who set fire to churches pranksters or terrorists, depending on their social statuses. "What is truth?" Pilate declared.
Cooler stuff - there's been water found on one of Saturn's moons. Now, does this mean there's life there? Maaaaybe. Even if we don't find anything, now we know what other possibilities might develop lifeforms. (Cue Data singing from Generations)
And a potentially lengthy thought and question - going under the cut for length more than content.
What happens when curiosity becomes... something else?
Explain.
Well, at the outset of a query, curiosity means that the high-level general answer will satisfice. You learn the beginner's answer, as it were, the one that will answer the question, needing as little in-depth or theory material as possible. One understands the how, if not necessarily the why.
And?
Well, on subjects where there is greater interest, the beginner's answer won't do. Curiosty is satisfied, but at this point, it changes into something else... desire, perhaps? Regardless of the name of the state, the question of why enters, and rather than satisfaction, understanding becomes the goal.
So far so good. What's the problem?
One would think that the natural state associated with such a want would be intensity or interest or desire, as I mentioned. Instead, there is a profound nervousness that is associated with this particular want.
Worried about what people will think about you?
Not as much. If you take a look around merely this friendslist, I have more than enough deviants on it that I'm already guilty by association. If I were really worried about disapproving stares, I wouldn't have them as friends. (My friendslist would also be far more boring - likely with few to nobody on it) Admittedly, there's very little reason for me to tell the more conservative persons in the family about all the freaks that I hang out with - and besides, they're great people who have a few kinks to them. They wouldn't be half as interesting otherwise. Nah, I really shouldn't be too concerned about looking like a deviant.
Something else, then?
Kind of. Might actually be social anxieties about this - it is new territory, and we've documented pretty well how much "Me" gets anxious in new situations. It's different, reading the books, getting the beginner's answer, or even the theoretical answer, and then talking to the people who put it into practice in their lives. I feel somewhat... unqualified to be in that kind of presence. No experience and all that. That could be it, but there's something else to it.
Such as?
That this is one of those things that's not just a goddamn hobby. Well, that takes some explaining - I don't necessarily think the things that my friends have talked about are just hobbies - that would be demeaning to them. I want to learn about those things, as well - not just the how, but the why. What I'm seeing so far is something profound, deep, layered, where I admittedly had very little idea that it was like that before. I'm beginning to suspect that all the other things that I'm curious about have had those layers to them, and either I haven't noticed or I haven't asked. Seeing this is making me reinterpret a lot of things.
"The more I know, the more I know I need to know more?"
Even more than that! The realization that my understanding is still superficial and shallow for a lot of important things. Not that I just need to know more, but that I need to understand more, experience more, and do more. Realizing that with as much time as I've spent learning about things, I haven't done a whole bunch of them. Perhaps this is a long-awaited awakening or something. I'm feeling a bit more adventurous now, And now I'm wondering how to get started on making those adventurous thoughts turn into the real thing. May have to break out more than just Morton's List this time.
At the same time, take into account what you're seeing and learning. Change won't happen overnight, necessarily.
Yeah. Goddess grant me patience, but if you could hurry it along, that would be nice. Ah, well. Will have to play it by ear and see if the universe decides to play along.
What lies beyond the furthest reach of the sky?
That which leads the lost child back into its mother's arms...Exile.
The waves that stain the land in gold...
The breath of blessings that nutures life...the land of wheat.
The path upon which the angels walk
Thou art the path of great winds; the Grand Stream.
What lies beyond the furthest reaches of memory?
Where everything is born and to where everything returns...the blue star.
Seems appropriate, although I don't know why.
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Date: 2006-03-10 06:43 pm (UTC)