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And something not so silly.

Two things, actually. The first is that I think I've pinpointed the reason why I 'm worried about [livejournal.com profile] welah so much. As silly as it sounds, I want him to be happy. There are too many unknown factors out there, (no offense, [livejournal.com profile] tkarrde98) and so I'm worried that things won't go smoothly and that I won't be able to fix it. Plane tickets are kind of expensive, ya know? Like I've said, it's a silly, irrational fear, but it just won't leave! I guess he'll just have to assure me that things are going well once he gets out there or something.

Second thing from the darkness is actually a two-person insanity. I was talking with a friend on IM tonight ([livejournal.com profile] ravenfrost, incidentally. Small world when people I've met for only a few days off of LJ turn out to have LJ...) and we got to discussing the nature of homosexuality. This was after I had commented that I was not fond of the president's stances regarding the matter. My interlocutor believed that homosexuality wasn't quite kosher with evolution. Something not quite biologically right about it, I suggested as a phrase to describe it, and he agreed.

His remark was that "Men are meant to be with a woman, and vice versa." (Biologically speaking) I thought his reasoning had shortcoming on biological grounds, and he added that society, while had keeping homosexuality as a taboo, nonetheless had to acknowledge that it still happened anyway, could point to one of a host of factors - biological, societal, or otherwise. A quick repartee about our society being more accepting of the prospect (although he said that the future wouldn't look on it so well as we do today, but that it would still be miles above what it was in the past), and an interesting comment about the etymology of the slur "faggot", (apparently witches and homosexuals both got the burning, and the homosexuals were used as faggots for the fire. I'm not sure if it's true, but it's interesting. Can anyone tell me whether it's true or not?) and we both landed at the agreement that until the matter can be proven one way or another, we're not quite sure what may be the cause. All in all, while I didn't really get to figure out what he did think about the causes of homosexuality, it was still interesting watching the mechanics of another mind.

(Edit/Update: Check out the comments that have been left for more of my interlocutor's mindset. It may be helpful.)

The conversation degenerated into politics from there, unfortunately.

Either way, I'm going to go off to bed soon... yay for a 1:00 P.M. start tomorrow. And the beginning of UMMUN... and one basketball game. Funny how in the off-season, my schedule is still as busy...
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Date: 2004-01-14 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torakiyoshi.livejournal.com
A brief scan of the web page you referenced demonstrates that it is written by people who take no time to learn what they criticize. I have seen their argument against Paul many times, and it is a tired one based in fallacy and ignorance: their quotes against the Pauline Epistles are based on historicity that is, by nature of the chronology, pointless and invalid. I should not even have to mention the fact that most of the so-called experts they quote are people who have absolutely no theological authority whatsoever!

Paul did not intentionally disregard the teachings and statements of Jesus: he, in fact, never heard them. He also did not have the convenience of a Gideon's New Testament lying around for him to research them, either. Paul's education, as is explained briefly in Acts and more in-depth in Galatians (and hinted at in Corinthians), came from the desert, in the same manner as the Old Testament prophets. He was tested by the leaders of the Jerusalem Church at that time, and was sent out as a missionary from the church when they found his message was in accord with theirs.

In my own research of Pauline and Gospel teachings, I see much that is accordant, and none that is dischordant. Paul was taught the Good News by divine revelation, while the Gospel writers were taught by direct interaction with Jesus. Their messages and audiences were different. They are parallel, not divergent; complimentary, not contrary.

It is almost as ridiculous to hear these same old arguments against Paul as it is to hear people refer to God as two separate entities between the Old and New Testaments.

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever" (Hebrews 13:8).

"I and the Father are One" (John 10:30).

"For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. James, Peter and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews" (Galatians 2:8-9).

-=TK

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