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[personal profile] silveradept
This gets Asstd. Misc, Etc. because it's not strictly about one topic, even if there's some thematic material possibly inside.

Anyway, so now that I've posted the question and answers, I have to admit that I'm still a little salty about a rude comment left on one of my older works. The initial comment, on a specifically F/F story, was to say the story had been recommended to them, and the F/F elements were nice, but then they proceeded to complain that there weren't enough men in the story, because they would also be present in the story, surely. The final rating was just over mediocre, presumably because of the lack of men in a story that had been tagged F/F and was following that path pretty firmly.

So that got Polite Author Question #5 ("Thank you for the detailed review. You mentioned this was a recommendation. Could I see where the recommendation was made?") because I was interested in how the story had been sold to the person leaving the comment that the recommender had missed that much in doing so. There's no immediate response but after a few months, I did get a comment back saying that the recommendation had been made on the side ships channel of their specific M/M ship-focused space, and that since it wasn't open, no, they couldn't show it to me. And then, to twist the knife, they said that the work wasn't something they would ever read or recommend again. (You know, it case it hadn't been sufficiently clear the first time around that the solidly F/F work that had been recommended in side-ships to a primarily M/M focused channel was offensive to their tastes for not including men in it.)

So no, I won't be able to trace how the work was sold to someone who very clearly wasn't interested in it and who then felt they needed to express that disinterest in ways that made it abundantly clear they were judging the work on something other than the work itself. What're you going to do, y'know? (Yes, this is transparent fishing for comments of the order of "What was that person expecting, exactly?" But if you have some explanations about how this entire cycle happened that are fair and logical, I'm also interested in those, too. It'll help calm down the part of my brain going "But, but, WHY?")

Onward to today's horror story. I was at one of my regular work locations and had been asked to thin out the graphic novel collection, which is, on its best times, difficult. (Graphic novels are popular. I like this and encourage it, but it does make weeding difficult because everything circs really well.) This was before open hours, and I'm looking at the shelves, scanning them to find good candidates for what could be weeded out. And, I spot upon the children's graphic novel shelves, a work that has been completely misfiled. This would not normally make my eyes pop and set my teeth on edge. The other two works that were also misfiled didn't provoke the same reaction, so why is this one doing it?

The misfiled work was Maia Kobabe's Gender Queer.

If you didn't have a reflexive flinch at reading that sentence, then let me give you some context. Gender Queer topped the most challenged books of 2021 list, according to the ALA. It is very much meant for the adult graphic novel section, and is classed to be filed in that space in most libraries (or at the very least, in the teen area for older teens.) If you just run down the references part of the Wikipedia article, you get the distinct sense that the book has been the target of sustained censorship efforts, but you can also read the controversy section to see just how much vitriol has been spent on trying to get the book banned from schools, libraries, and everywhere else by claiming it's "pornographic" based on a small sliver of imagery and descriptions, much like other works that have occasional frank talk or imagery about being queer.

The book that has been a magnet for censorious interests had been misfiled in the children's area. Whether by accident, or by intent, or something else, I can just imagine what kind of explosive nightmare it could have been for my organization had someone taken a picture of it and allowed the context collapse to do what it does best, because it could have been shown as "proof" that librarians really were trying to push that kind of book on innocent children. It could have been a provocation, it could have been an accident, but it wouldn't have mattered once the forces marshaled had their beliefs confirmed. So. I may have averted a disaster for my organization, and they'll never know because they never had to suffer it.

On much brighter tones, later in the day, one of the users came up to me and said they were returning a disc where the content of the disc, instead of being the UK-produced mystery series advertised, was instead a fitness workout disc. I put a different disc set on hold for them, and said I would talk with the people about it once I confirmed it was there. A few moments later, I remembered we have portable DVD players for checkout that work with our public computers, so I popped the offending disc in and fired up VLC. As the user had said, Jillian Michaels' visage greeted me on the disc. The packaging was right, the barcodes matched, and the label that had been stamped at the factory all said this was supposed to be suspense, but instead it was a fitness menu. Issue confirmed. I told the user that this would qualify for "weirdest thing that happened today" (because that's not even close to "weirdest thing that happened this month/year/ever" and it never will be), thanked them for telling us, and promptly got on the phone to our materials management people to alert them of the issue and ask they recall all the copies of the set to test them for the same problem. And to work with the vendor to make sure that we got proper and correct copies of what was advertised.

Often times, when I say that libraries have weird stuff that other people don't think about, I usually mean it in ways that aren't this light-hearted nor this clearly a mistake that was completely out of our control. It was funny, and that kind of funny is something that we definitely need in this era.
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Date: 2022-11-19 04:39 am (UTC)
bladespark: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bladespark
I do wonder, sometimes, what goes through people's heads when they leave comments. I *almost* never get malicious comments, but I get some incredibly daft ones now and then.
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Date: 2022-11-19 04:59 am (UTC)
lilysea: LGBT (LGBT)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
And, I spot upon the children's graphic novel shelves, a work that has been completely misfiled. This would not normally make my eyes pop and set my teeth on edge. The other two works that were also misfiled didn't provoke the same reaction, so why is this one doing it?

The misfiled work was Maia Kobabe's Gender Queer


I made an instant horrified face!

I've read it, it's a very well written book, but it belongs in the Young Adult or Adult sections so as to not give censors/transphobes/homophobes/bigots ammunition for their propaganda...

In fact, I'm actually wondering if a member of the public could have *deliberately* mis-shelved it so that they or someone else could come back and make a big fuss about the mis-shelving...
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Date: 2022-11-19 07:31 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
Yeah, I've certainly encountered innocent mis-shelving eg a mainstream chain DVD library in the 1990s that put adult anime/hentai in the children's section because they thought all animation was for children

but the current cultural context around Gender queer makes me suspicious...
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Date: 2022-11-19 05:03 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
Re: A03 comments,

Oh for fuck's sake :(

I've read stories on Archive of Our Own that bored me or that grossed me out or where the characters were very out of character, and I've never commented.

As far as I'm concerned, the only time it's appropriate to leave a negative comment on a fic is if the fic genuinely seems bigoted/prejudiced - eg racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, ableism.
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Date: 2022-11-19 07:35 am (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
Yeah, it's ***not okay*** to read eg a Natasha Romanoff/Wanda Maximoff fic and leave a comment saying "this is a bad fic because it doesn't have enough Steve Rogers"
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Date: 2022-11-19 06:56 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Good eye. If you haven't warned the rest of the crew that you observed and corrected this misfile, I would do that. Org-wide, possibly.

I believe in coincidence, but that smells like enemy action.
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Date: 2022-11-19 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ewt
I think a lot of people don't read the tags. This is silly, but... well. I don't think there's much you could do about it.
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Date: 2022-11-19 08:40 am (UTC)
finch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] finch
I have no good logic that might explain why someone needed to be rude and then double down on the rudeness. I guess some people really are just that uncomfortable when we are not about their taste in couples.
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Date: 2022-11-19 10:55 am (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
they said that the work wasn't something they would ever read or recommend again.

Did they ask for a refund too? Maybe ask to speak to your manager? Some people.
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Date: 2022-11-19 12:25 pm (UTC)
princessofgeeks: Shane smiling, caption Canada's Shane Hollander (Default)
From: [personal profile] princessofgeeks
Regarding your F/F story: That's like going to the opera and complaining about all the singing. Incredible.
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Date: 2022-11-19 03:00 pm (UTC)
ilyena_sylph: picture of Labyrinth!faerie with 'careful, i bite' as text (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
Holy Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit am I glad you caught that misfile!!!!!
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Date: 2022-11-19 05:23 pm (UTC)
thewayne: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thewayne
I had a weird one Thursday at work, too. First day at work in three weeks since going to Phoenix. Had an ILL request for an art book. No big deal, go to the right section, approximate shelf, start scanning. Not there. Start looking at adjacent shelves, not there. It wasn't an ILL request per se, it was a transfer to main campus: system wouldn't accept it if it were not available, it would put a hold on it if it were out. So it should be there.

Well, I had other books to process, so I went back to my office and worked the other books and would go back and re-search the stacks later. And I did check our Oversized since it was an art book, those are frequently over there.

I finished my other work, go back and re-search. Still can't find it. I happen to look at the shelf to the left of the one that I was looking at, and the call numbers were HIGHER.

This should not be! I look at the shelf one higher, and they were grossly lower. Major sequence break. I start doing a bit of shelf reading, not serious, just scanning - massive sequence errors, major shelves screwed up.

I walk into my boss's office - who just got promoted to Library Director at the ripe old age of 25 or 26! - smiling, told her that I needed to show her something on the floor. She knew by my smile that it wasn't terribly good.

Several years back, long before my time, and my boss only has six months on me, the entire library was taken apart. It was learned that our aisles were not ADA compliant for wheelchairs, so a REALLY heavy weeding was done since some stacks had to be removed. The good thing that came from this was the then-director rebuilt the floor into sort of a fan shape so that from one position you can see through every aisle to the back wall! Emily thinks that when it was put back together, someone was sloppy putting that rack back together and somehow shelf reading has totally screwed up or completely skipped that area.

I did find my book, though.

It's curious. I've had lots of requests for art books over the years, it's just that up until now, they haven't hit the area where the sequence was utterly screwed up.

So we're going to have some fun over the next few weeks. At least now we have three people who really understand sequence and we don't have to rely on student workers to redo this correctly.
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Date: 2022-11-19 05:47 pm (UTC)
thewayne: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thewayne

At least after fixing it, it will be much more correct for future users and workers after I'm gone.  And it'll just be a couple of hours of work probably.  A few years ago we integrated most of our non-circulating reference material into the circulating collection, and THAT was a lot of work!  This fix will be much simpler since we'll be sorting entire shelves, it'll just require pulling all of our carts out of the back and a lot of physical work.

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Date: 2022-11-19 10:13 pm (UTC)
anneapocalypse: Ariane Clairière, an Elezen Warrior of Light with light skin, green eyes, and dark blonde hair. (Default)
From: [personal profile] anneapocalypse

That comment is just... incredible. I do not at all understand feeling the need to comment on a fic for which I am clearly not the target audience in order to tell the author so.

And yikes, good catch on the book.

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