The quickpost!

[silveradept]

Quick stuff tonight, as I'm on my way out the door to get myself home for concerts and that.

Fearless Leader admits his rhetoric may have been a tad unspohisticated. But he claims to have been misinterpreted. Feels like a dodge to me.

A story of Marines committing murder? The investigation is ongoing, but excessive force appears to have been used. Question is, how many of these cases happened but aren't being reported or caught on television?

Told you it would be quick. But it's important. Tomorrow, we rock the house in suits for the concert. Maybe this time I'll get a decent picture of myself in a suit.

Comments

[urbankotq.livejournal.com]

So the first major cracks in that "Never Back Down" persona appear. He sounded uncharacteristically deflated in the sound bites I heard, too.

I tend to disagree, though. At the time they were uttered, "Bring 'Em On" and "Dead Or Alive" were the right things to say to show courage and resolve--to show terrorists, Americans and the world that the U.S. would not simply capitulate after 11 September 2001. Then we invaded Iraq, and the foolishness commenced...but he shouldn't have had to take those statements back. They were appropriate for the situation, and I'm disappointed that he did.

[greyweirdo.livejournal.com]

But he said "Bring 'em On" when talking about the Iraqis. The problem there is that they did bring it on.

I would still support the "Dead or Alive" Sentament, but we seem to have all but forgotten about bin Laden.

[yarha.livejournal.com]

Words are trivial. "Bring 'em on" was a very, very minor mistake. He only admitted to the 'token' mistake. :p

Yarha, Criminal Incompetance?

[yarha.livejournal.com]

I feel sick every time I read the story about the murder by Marines, and I'm not one to be easily affected like that.

Yarha, What Else is Done in My Name That I Don't Know About?

[silveradept]

This tells me that Iraq is continuing to follow the Vietnam path. Which can't end well. Which could mean collapse of the country if the local security forces can't handle it when we do finally decide to go.

-Silver, Those who Fail to Learn From History...

[silveradept]

It's like pleading to public drunkenness when you drove blitzed and smashed into an ambulance. There are a lot bigger screwups that need to be admitted to.

Silver, Never Entirely Convinced of Re-election.

[silveradept]

How is Osama doing these days? Anyone seen him holed up anywhere, on the run for his life while a perimeter closes around him?

[silveradept]

The sentiments behind the statements were an acceptable response to 11 September - resolve, determination, and a desire for justice. The statements themselves, however, sound more like someone inviting his enemies to do their worst, secure that they couldn't do it again, even though they just had.

[greyweirdo.livejournal.com]

Well I understand we're tightening the noose.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

Well, he won re-election by cheating. I think everyone knows that by now. I think it's an interesting "coincidence" that both times there was problems with voting was when he was running.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

Collapse of the country? eeek.

I mean, i'm not a fan of Bush, but I rather like NOT feeling as if the country is falling apart.

~Anna, praying that no one gets the dumb idea to reinstate the draft

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

I still want to see you in a top hat.

[silveradept]

Meant Iraq, not United States, but if things go really wrong, well, the U.S. could go undre, too.

[silveradept]

I would like to see me in a top hat, tux, scarf, and the whole thing.

[silveradept]

Rather interesting, isn't it? We start learning more about the systems that are supposed to work impartially and flawlessly (and potentially have) as soon as this one enters to the office because they weren't working flawlessly, and it looks like, not impartially, either.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

I'm really starting to be reminded of Starhawk's book, The Fifth Sacred Thing. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553373803/sr=8-1/qid=1148993295/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5031189-1799102?%5Fencoding=UTF8) Amazon has a weird description of the book, but if i remember it correctly, the only people that gain access to food and water are those who obey the "official religion", woman are now the property of their husbands and/or the state....and tehn in the middle of all of this, there's the utopia where earth, air, fire, and water are valued above anything else. it's a good read. i reccomend it...either borrow my copy, or grab a copy when you're at the library (if they have it)

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

Well, i'm working on the scarf (well, not right *now*, but you know what i mean.) You'll have a scarf ...or are you talking one of those posh cashmere ones?

Oh...you in a tux. with tails. You need tails. Right. I have an overactive imagination, and let me tell you, you look very handsome dressed in a formal tuxedo.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

It makes me wonder what else there is going on that we don't know about. OR how much control certain people have over things. I don't think i can survive having his brother in office, but you know darned well that somehow they will fenangle it so that he does win. And there will be an investigation by the democrats over it that will suddenly drop dead and have the dem candidate say "well, we have to go with what the results say"....I really think that had Gore won in 00, we wouldn't have nearly as many issues with Iraq, Al-Queda, etc. that we do now. Kerry wasn't as strong as a candidate as Gore, IMHO, but I think if Gore had won in 00, he might have gone for re-election and/or the Dem candidate would have been stronger in any case being backed by a Dem president.

The whole fiasco with what happened in 00 STILL makes me mad..and maybe that's me being a bitter democrat about the outcome, but when it was made increasingly obviuos that Gore was the actual winner but yet nothing was done?! Grrrr.

[silveradept]

I know I look good in a tux - I've worn one for my high school prom - and one that had the tails cut off when I was high school drum major. I will look good in that. I just need one to have so that I can wear it around.

[silveradept]

"Finders keepers, losers weepers. It's not stolen if you don't find out until two or three years in..."

...and then there was more shenanigans with the second election. I'm surprised that with as many irrgularities as were reported, a national recount wasn't instituted.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

pictures? (ginny's whimpering....)

you wore a tux as a drum major? Neato. Ours just wore glorified band uniforms.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

John Kerry got convinced NOT to have that done. I might still have the emails or links located somewhere, but I was a member of his campaign staff locally and remember when that happened.

As much of a pain in the butt as the new electronic machines seem to be, there also seems to be little way to cheat on them.

[silveradept]

Ours would have been, too, but there were two of us who were tall and broad-shouldered, and there weren't two uniforms that fit that profile, so tuxes it was. Without the tails, though, they were pretty ugly.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

yes. tuxedo's require tails!

[silveradept]

Unless you tamper with them after the votes have been cast, which is quite possible according to some of the ssecurity audits that happened of the machines for the last election.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

I thought it's impossible to tampe with them?

[silveradept]

If you trust the people that made them and the people that transport and service them, then they are untamperable. If not or if any of them has a momentary lapse in security, the whole thing could be screwed over.

[annaonthemoon.livejournal.com]

oooh. I hadn't thought about that.